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Re: General-Purpose bragging topic!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:36 am
by Rob1221
Just finished sucking the blood out of VT VGT: http://i.imgur.com/vXaPd3I.jpg

I went with the dragonshield/RBS/platemail combo and used HALPMEH as my only glyph (besides one cast of CYDSTEPP). In addition to the platemail I found an early balanced dagger and later a dragon soul. There were 5 meatmen that I relied on for lifesteal.

I was relieved after making it through the second subdungeon which was bloodless, but there were still a few tricky parts after that. Since most of my popcorn was in the way of subdungeons with no way to move them, that didn't leave enough for curse removal and I had to fight a few enemies dealing the full 120 damage. That drained an annoying amount of exploration but I still made it past. If I didn't use quicksilver/reflex on the cursed dragon there's a good chance I would have failed. The scroll that curses in exchange for resists went unused as well.

Another problem was that 2 of the meatmen were in the way of the last subdungeons, so they had to go, leaving me with only 3. In the last subdungeon before Horatio I got hit with one of a VGT player's worst fears: a Binlor subdungeon that started fully explored. I panicked at that point, but thankfully none of the enemies were bloodless and didn't require exploration to beat them.

Onward to Horatio, who did a negligible amount of damage until the berserk. Since Patches screwed me with only 4% resist bonus and I couldn't use the 5% resist scroll, the fight wouldn't be as easy as I thought. I used the whupaz that I was saving up, and that combined with dragon soul allowed me to win without touching my remaining blood pools or potions.

Re: General-Purpose bragging topic!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:14 am
by Tinker
Rob1221 wrote:Just finished sucking the blood out of VT VGT

Hey congrats! That's pretty cool! 8-)

Another problem was that 2 of the meatmen were in the way of the last subdungeons, so they had to go, leaving me with only 3.

Taurog prep makes the monsters in the courtyard cowardly. So you can remove them from stairs and such.

In the last subdungeon before Horatio I got hit with one of a VGT player's worst fears: a Binlor subdungeon that started fully explored.

I actually wanted to make a whining thread about this. Why is it *always* the Binlor floor that gets either flush of insight and/or the Dancing Blade? :?

Re: General-Purpose bragging topic!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:57 pm
by William
Finished VGT last night using the vampire setup suggested in this thread. Beat it first try; it felt like cheating even though plate armor didn't materialize in the shops.

Today I finally got around to defeating Naga City two more times to unlock the Gorgon. Now I need to figure out what makes the Gorgon tick, as every daily with the Gorgon has led to my demise.

Re: General-Purpose bragging topic!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:22 pm
by Tinker
William wrote:Finished VGT last night using the vampire setup suggested in this thread. Beat it first try; it felt like cheating even though plate armor didn't materialize in the shops.

Hey good job! Yeah, Vampire is really at home in VGT, it's actually as close as it gets to "easy" in VGT... :)

Today I finally got around to defeating Naga City two more times to unlock the Gorgon. Now I need to figure out what makes the Gorgon tick, as every daily with the Gorgon has led to my demise.

Good job again! And good luck with the Gorgon... The first time I felt in control playing a Gorgon was when I prepped Mystera and totally ignored almost everything about my character, except for the built-in ENDISWAL and used her as a straight-up Mystera caster. Now I've learned to appreciate its charms, but it remains to date one of the harder classes to play for me (not because the concept of poison-regen-fighting is difficult; but because you always need to be mindful of how much blackspace you are willing to invest into a certain kill).

Re: General-Purpose bragging topic!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:13 pm
by MTaur
William wrote:Finished VGT last night using the vampire setup suggested in this thread. Beat it first try; it felt like cheating even though plate armor didn't materialize in the shops.

Today I finally got around to defeating Naga City two more times to unlock the Gorgon. Now I need to figure out what makes the Gorgon tick, as every daily with the Gorgon has led to my demise.


Well, I put added a bunch to the wiki a while ago, not that I'm a master or anything. But target selection is really finicky.

And yeah, Naga City x3 was pretty rough.

Re: General-Purpose bragging topic!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:37 am
by Lujo
The thing with the Gorgon is that she originally had the old poison strike, the one where if you hit something it doesn't regenerate untill you hit something else. So you could get (un)reasonably high level kills while you explore. She was kind of tricky to play even then, but she really got screwed by the poison rework. She still ussually works well enough with Binlor (and I suppose Drac probably), or as a straight Mystera caster, or with Yendor (in shorter runs), but she was built to fight way higher opponents and cash in on the resource investment way more than she does currently (as she can't play the way she was intended to be played which was sorta explained by dislekcia somewhere once and it's kinda impossible to do that with the Gorgon as she is now).

Re: General-Purpose bragging topic!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:37 am
by William
MTaur wrote:
William wrote:Finished VGT last night using the vampire setup suggested in this thread. Beat it first try; it felt like cheating even though plate armor didn't materialize in the shops.

Today I finally got around to defeating Naga City two more times to unlock the Gorgon. Now I need to figure out what makes the Gorgon tick, as every daily with the Gorgon has led to my demise.


Well, I put added a bunch to the wiki a while ago, not that I'm a master or anything. But target selection is really finicky.

And yeah, Naga City x3 was pretty rough.


Yeah, I had a look at the wiki, and it is quite useful. But as the others mentioned, the Gorgon feels quite broken. Will have to try the straight up mystera/caster thing.

Edit1: The idea of using binlor to clear petrified enemies in order to use the blood pools with either Dracul or EM is quite intriguing.

Re: General-Purpose bragging topic!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:01 pm
by Tinker
VGT Goated:

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I took Astral's recipe and it worked like a charm! I won on my 3rd try, and I didn't have to scum but I got lucky and scored both Soul Orb and HALPMEH. It was a walk in the park afterwards - farmed piety when I had a piety farmy deity; spent it when I got someone who offered good boons I wanted. Herbivore was never a disadvantage because food was abundant; in fact it was a benefit because I got a lot of CPs and Piety out of my excess reserves. On the successful run I did not have any issue with the spontaneus conversions; in fact, being able to pick & choose boons from most of the deities was unbelievably powerful.

Now, granted, Goat always runs the risk of getting RNG screwed (my previous attempt started me in TT; then swapped me over to Binlor with no way to earn even a single Piety before the level-up resist-wipe; etc.). I got really lucky on this run, but I think even a bit less luck would've been enough, because I had cca. 100 food and about 30 blood pools and an inventory full of items left at the end.

EDIT: Something that goes very differently with the goat in the end game is that you won't be in Dracul for the boss fight. Good news is that you can use HALPMEH and potions, most likely; bad news, no piety for drinking blood. Even worse news is that the RNG can screw you over by landing you in GG who hates blood drinking... Another interesting snippet is how useful Earthmother can be, I took several shots of Greenblood and Clearance.

Re: General-Purpose bragging topic!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:30 am
by William
Yowsers, congratulations! I do not look forward to the goatperson run. Maybe I will be a bit more comfortable once I beat the Tower of Gaan-telet with a goat first.

Re: General-Purpose bragging topic!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:48 pm
by berpdreyfuss
I finally completed all the silver challenges, the explorer guild gave me a hard time. Last one I did was the crusader and it took a lot of tries to finally get it right. Now off to the gold challenges!