Triple Quests - Revision history

Jamberine: /* Scenario 1 - Southern Swamp */

2024-01-18T18:40:32Z

‎Scenario 1 - Southern Swamp

Johnmyster: /* Strategy */ Bold text added for readability. Therefor -->Therefore. Additional minor fixes.

2023-05-29T08:08:09Z

‎Strategy: Bold text added for readability. Therefor -->Therefore. Additional minor fixes.

Johnmyster: /* Strategy */ A couple tips added. Wiki links / images added where applicable, and paragraphs spaced out for readability. Minor grammar edits.

2023-05-29T07:57:20Z

‎Strategy: A couple tips added. Wiki links / images added where applicable, and paragraphs spaced out for readability. Minor grammar edits.

Johnmyster: Top section (introduction) has had plain text integrated with many wiki links and images. A few other edits for clarity.

2023-05-28T10:35:01Z

Top section (introduction) has had plain text integrated with many wiki links and images. A few other edits for clarity.

Johnmyster: /* Preparations / Resources */ Since this is the only stage where you can decide on preps, some suggested preps are listed here.

2023-05-28T10:10:00Z

‎Preparations / Resources: Since this is the only stage where you can decide on preps, some suggested preps are listed here.

Johnmyster: /* Preparations / Resources */ Glyphs are not fixed

2023-05-28T09:54:58Z

‎Preparations / Resources: Glyphs are not fixed

Johnmyster: /* Preparations / Resources */ A dungeon does not always appear. Changed would spawn to "will" spawn

2023-05-27T23:40:16Z

‎Preparations / Resources: A dungeon does not always appear. Changed would spawn to "will" spawn

Johnmyster: /* Preparations / Resources */ Dungeon has no gold on main floor

2023-05-27T22:34:29Z

‎Preparations / Resources: Dungeon has no gold on main floor

Chandl34: /* Boss */

2018-04-27T10:22:50Z

‎Boss

Chandl34: /* Scenario 2 - Shifting Passages */

2018-04-27T06:09:36Z

‎Scenario 2 - Shifting Passages

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	A curiously effective preparation tandem for dealing with all these challenges is {{i\|Fake Beard}} and {{g\|Tikki Tooki}}. The bonus experience of the beard ensures the player character starts at 2nd level; and Tikki Tooki both offers boons to compensate for low-level kills, and grants piety for them.		A curiously effective preparation tandem for dealing with all these challenges is {{i\|Fake Beard}} and {{g\|Tikki Tooki}}. The bonus experience of the beard ensures the player character starts at 2nd level; and Tikki Tooki both offers boons to compensate for low-level kills, and grants piety for them.
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−	~~Dragon Shield is a better prep in the long run though, because the 3rd part is all about being able to take a hit from the bosses.~~

	Furthermore, at least one {{i\|Burn Salve}} is recommended as a preparation to clear the many stacks of corrosion the character will inevitably suffer.		Furthermore, at least one {{i\|Burn Salve}} is recommended as a preparation to clear the many stacks of corrosion the character will inevitably suffer.

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 ==== Strategy ====
-First of all you want to level up. Ideal targets will be the {{m|Djinn}}s and {{m|Doom Armour}}s. If you have the {{i|Soul Orb}}, {{m|Thrall}}s also become (relatively) easy pickings. {{m|Steel Golem}}s and {{m|Succubus}}es will be more difficult, in fact it is recommended to leave them until they are outleveled and can be 1-shot killed. There is generally no reason not to start worshiping {{g|Glowing Guardian}} as soon as you find his altar, it will be important to build up some initial piety with him for the boss fights. Consider '''not''' taking {{boon|Humility}}, as you want your {{s|HALPMEH}} to heal every bit you can get.
+First of all you want to '''level up'''. Ideal targets will be the {{m|Djinn}}s and {{m|Doom Armour}}s. If you have the {{i|Soul Orb}}, {{m|Thrall}}s also become (relatively) easy pickings. {{m|Steel Golem}}s and {{m|Succubus}}es will be more difficult, in fact it is recommended to leave them until they are outleveled and can be 1-shot killed. There is generally no reason not to start worshiping {{g|Glowing Guardian}} as soon as you find his altar, it will be important to build up some initial piety with him for the boss fights. Consider '''not''' taking {{boon|Humility}}, as you want your {{s|HALPMEH}} to heal every bit you can get.
-The initial forms of The Avatar mini-bosses are not difficult, and should become feasible around L4-5 (though you should likely wait until 6 or 7). Kill them all, though don't touch the 2nd forms of the mini-bosses until you're done with the leveling/exploration. You will not really be able to use blackspace against them, so explore the full map (you may leave a couple of dark wall tiles to round up health/mana, but not too many will be needed).
+The initial forms of '''The Avatar''' mini-bosses are not difficult, and should become feasible around L4-5 (though you should likely wait until 6 or 7). Kill them all, though don't touch the 2nd forms of the mini-bosses until you're done with the leveling/exploration. You will not really be able to use blackspace against them, so explore the full map (you may leave a couple of dark wall tiles to round up health/mana, but not too many will be needed).
-Fighting the 2nd form of the mini-bosses can be tedious. They have an enormous amount of health, can deal a lot of damage, and can sport very high resistances. You will have to mouse over each of them before every strike, to see which ones do the least amount of damage to you; though try to also consider the amount of damage you will do, i.e. a form that does low damage but has extremely high resists is probably less efficient to attack than a form that does a bit more damage, but has much lower resists. Certain items such as the {{i|Platemail}} and  {{i|Martyr Wraps}} can aid you immensely with this process, as you can deal damage without taking damage yourself or stack up many many layers of {{t|Corrosion}}.
+'''Fighting the 2nd form of the mini-bosses can be tedious.''' They have an enormous amount of health, can deal a lot of damage, and can sport very high resistances. You will have to mouse over each of them before every strike, to see which ones do the least amount of damage to you; though try to also consider the amount of damage you will do, i.e. a form that does low damage but has extremely high resists is probably less efficient to attack than a form that does a bit more damage, but has much lower resists. Certain items such as the {{i|Platemail}} and  {{i|Martyr Wraps}} can aid you immensely with this process, as you can deal damage without taking damage yourself or stack up many many layers of {{t|Corrosion}}.
-As the bosses start to die, you will find it harder and harder to get an optimal hit in. It is therefor recommended that you try to deplete the bosses' health pools in a balanced way -- Sometimes picking a boss who is less optimal but has higher health just to keep as many of them alive as possible until each of them come within 1-hit range. That said, the benefit of killing one of them is huge, because you gain piety, and the monsters spawned allow you to gain XP and some useful items. The {{i|Compression Seal}}s nicely offset the {{i|Prayer Bead}}s you will most likely end up taking from GG, the [[File:Pendant of Mana.png]]Bargain Pendants are excellent conversion fodder, and the {{i|Spoon}}s can help round up your damage, but may be useless by the end.
+'''As the bosses start to die, you will find it harder and harder to get an optimal hit in.''' It is therefore recommended that you try to deplete the bosses' health pools in a balanced way -- Sometimes picking a boss who is less optimal but has higher health just to keep as many of them alive as possible until each of them come within 1-hit range. That said, the benefit of killing one of them is huge, because you gain piety, and the monsters spawned allow you to gain XP and some useful items. The {{i|Compression Seal}}s nicely offset the {{i|Prayer Bead}}s you will most likely end up taking from GG, the Bargain Pendants are excellent conversion fodder, and the {{i|Spoon}}s can help round up your damage, but may be useless by the end.
-Use the resources available to refill ({{boon|Protection}} from GG; Potions; level-up). This is a long and tedious fight, and the RNG can roll next to impossible stats for the mini-bosses, so try to be patient and carefully weigh the benefits of killing a mini-boss earlier versus keeping her alive longer.
+'''Use the resources available''' to refill ({{boon|Protection}} from GG; Potions; level-up). This is a long and tedious fight, and the RNG can roll next to impossible stats for the mini-bosses, so try to be patient and carefully weigh the benefits of killing a mini-boss earlier versus keeping her alive longer.
-Once you're done with all of them, you should have ample resources available to bank one more level-up for the final bossfight. The Watcher is not terribly difficult (especially if you unload that |[[File:Can of Whupaz.png]] Can of Whupaz  you've been lugging all along just for this occasion), however his special ability makes it impossible to regen-fight him. Which is why any last refills (for example, that last level-up) will be very useful.
+Once you're done with all of them, you should have ample resources available to bank '''one more level-up''' for the final bossfight. The Watcher is not terribly difficult (especially if you unload that [[File:Can of Whupaz.png]] Can of Whupaz  you've been lugging all along just for this occasion), however his special ability makes it impossible to regen-fight him. Which is why any last refills (for example, that last level-up) will be very useful.

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 ==== Strategy ====
-First of all you want to level up. Ideal targets will be the Imps and Doom Armors. If you have the Soul Orb, Thralls also become (relatively) easy pickings. Steel Golems and Succubuses will be more difficult, in fact it is recommended to leave them until they are outleveled and can be 1-shot killed. There is generally no reason not to start worshipping GG as soon as you find his altar, it will be important to build up some initial piety with him for the boss fights.
+First of all you want to level up. Ideal targets will be the {{m|Djinn}}s and {{m|Doom Armour}}s. If you have the {{i|Soul Orb}}, {{m|Thrall}}s also become (relatively) easy pickings. {{m|Steel Golem}}s and {{m|Succubus}}es will be more difficult, in fact it is recommended to leave them until they are outleveled and can be 1-shot killed. There is generally no reason not to start worshiping {{g|Glowing Guardian}} as soon as you find his altar, it will be important to build up some initial piety with him for the boss fights. Consider '''not''' taking {{boon|Humility}}, as you want your {{s|HALPMEH}} to heal every bit you can get.
-Fighting the 2nd form of the mini-bosses can be tedious. They have an enormous amount of health, can deal a lot of damage, and can sport very high resistances. You will have to mouse over each of them before every strike, to see which ones do the least amount of damage to you; though try to also consider the amount of damage you will do, i.e. a form that does low damage but has extremely high resists is probably less efficient to attack than a form that does a bit more damage, but has much lower resists. Certain items such as the platemail and the martyrs wraps can aid you immensely with this process, as you can deal damage without taking damage yourself or stack up many many layers of corrosion.
+The initial forms of The Avatar mini-bosses are not difficult, and should become feasible around L4-5 (though you should likely wait until 6 or 7). Kill them all, though don't touch the 2nd forms of the mini-bosses until you're done with the leveling/exploration. You will not really be able to use blackspace against them, so explore the full map (you may leave a couple of dark wall tiles to round up health/mana, but not too many will be needed).
-Use the resources available to refill (Protection boon from GG; Potions; level-up). This is a long and tedious fight, and the RNG can roll next to impossible stats for the mini-bosses, so try to be patient and carefully weigh the benefits of killing a mini-boss earlier versus keeping her alive longer.
+Fighting the 2nd form of the mini-bosses can be tedious. They have an enormous amount of health, can deal a lot of damage, and can sport very high resistances. You will have to mouse over each of them before every strike, to see which ones do the least amount of damage to you; though try to also consider the amount of damage you will do, i.e. a form that does low damage but has extremely high resists is probably less efficient to attack than a form that does a bit more damage, but has much lower resists. Certain items such as the {{i|Platemail}} and  {{i|Martyr Wraps}} can aid you immensely with this process, as you can deal damage without taking damage yourself or stack up many many layers of {{t|Corrosion}}.
 Good luck! :) Winning this stage will earn you an audience with someone cute!
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-Triple quests are unique challenges added by the Goatperson DLC. They are accessible via the [[Goat Glade]]. Once you unlock the Goat Glade, the first triple quest is immediately unlocked; completing it unlocks the second triple quest, and completing that unlocks the third. There is a perky reward for completing the Triple Quests (on top of bragging rights): you get access to the Item Lottery. Paying a certain sum (500 gold, plus cumulative 250 gold for each subsequent use) will fetch you a random shop item that you can locker/veto/prep. The number of items fetched for the fee is governed by how many triple quests you have completed. After finishing the 3rd Triple Quest, your lottery will bring you 3 items each time. Although this may seem very expensive, bear in mind that it is end-game content, and rather useful at that.
+Triple quests are unique challenges added by the {{c|Goatperson}} DLC. They are accessible via the [[Goat Glade]]. Once you unlock the Goat Glade, the first triple quest is immediately unlocked; completing it unlocks the second triple quest, and completing that unlocks the third. There is a perky reward for completing the Triple Quests (on top of bragging rights): you get access to the Item Lottery. Paying a certain sum (500 gold, plus cumulative 250 gold for each subsequent use) will fetch you a random shop item that you can locker/veto/prep. The number of items fetched for the fee is governed by how many triple quests you have completed. After finishing the 3rd Triple Quest, your lottery will bring you 3 items each time. Although this may seem very expensive, bear in mind that it is end-game content, and rather useful at that.
-A word of caution first! It is highly recommended that you attempt to win each triple quest before reading on. There may be spoilers. Winning a triple quest without spoilers is a remarkable experience! Only read the section when you've already won, or when you feel stuck. There are, generally, several ways to win each Triple Quest, even the 3rd. Though also bear in mind that the Third triple quest, in particular, is considered to be more difficult than Vicious Gaan-Telet (you've been warned! :) ).
+A word of caution first! It is highly recommended that you attempt to win each triple quest before reading on. There may be spoilers. Winning a triple quest without spoilers is a remarkable experience! Only read the section when you've already won, or when you feel stuck. There are, generally, several ways to win each Triple Quest, even the 3rd. Though also bear in mind that the Third triple quest, in particular, is considered to be more difficult than {{d|Vicious Gaan-Telet}} (you've been warned! :) ).
-Each triple quest is a series of three scenarios - specific map, character, special rules - however normal preparations are only available for the first such scenario of each triple quest. The second scenario starts with the finishing inventory of the first scenario; and the third, with the finishing inventory of the second. For this reason, optimal preparations for a triple quest will consider all three scenarios. Furthermore, there is a tangible incentive not to convert items during a scenario, because every item or glyph left may make the next scenario that much easier. If you prep the Vicious Token, only the first scenario will have increased monster stats (Triple Quest bosses seem to ignore the VT).
+Each triple quest is a series of three scenarios - specific map, character, and special rules - however normal [[preparations]] are only available for the first such scenario of each triple quest. The second scenario starts with the finishing inventory of the first scenario; and the third, with the finishing inventory of the second. For this reason, optimal preparations for a triple quest will consider all three scenarios. Furthermore, there is a tangible incentive not to convert items during a scenario, because every item or glyph left may make the next scenario that much easier. If you prep the [[File:Vicious Badge.png]][[Vicious Token]], only the first scenario will have increased monster stats (Triple Quest bosses seem to ignore the VT).
 A note on item transfer. Most items transfer normally from scenario to scenario. The only exceptions are:
 * 'Food' does not transfer (this is only valid for Triple Quest 1, Scenario 1, as that's the only scenario that has 'food' in it).
-* Taurog's gear will transfer normally, however only as items. So they will provide the item's effects (+5 Damage / +15% resistance / 5 DR), but not the -1 Max Mana or the +5% Attack Bonus. Converting them will not trigger Taurog's punishment. You can only take each of Taurog's item boons once per map, however you may take the same boon again on another map, thus allowing you to stack his items.
+* {{g|Taurog}}'s gear will transfer normally, however only as items. So they will provide the item's effects (+5 Damage / +15% resistance / 5 DR), but not the -1 Max Mana or the +5% Attack Bonus. Converting them will not trigger Taurog's punishment. You can only take each of Taurog's item boons once per map, however you may take the same boon again on another map, thus allowing you to stack his items.
-* Glowing Guardian's beads will transfer! However, again only as base items, so none of the previous benefits (i.e. extra health) will be re-added. Furthermore, enchanted beads will have different image and mouse-over, but will have the same effect as the normal Prayer Beads: add 1% magic resistance. It is therefore advised not to take too many of Glowing Guardian's beads in early scenarios, because the inventory effect will hurt also the subsequent runs.
+* {{g|Glowing Guardian}}'s {{i|Prayer Bead}}s will transfer! However, again only as base items, so none of the previous benefits (i.e. extra health) will be re-added. Furthermore, enchanted beads will have different image and mouse-over, but will have the same effect as the normal Prayer Beads: add 1% magic resistance. It is therefore advised not to take too many of Glowing Guardian's beads in early scenarios, because the inventory effect will hurt also the subsequent runs.
 * If the next scenario's character has built-in equipment, the sixth item the previous character had will be placed on the ground next to the entrance. This only happens in the third Triple Quest.
-* A Crystal Ball in the inventory will reset the number of charges, but will not reset the cost per use.
+* A {{i|Crystal Ball}} in the inventory will reset the number of charges, but will not reset the cost per use.
-General note on worship choice. Tikki Tooki is an exceptionally good deity in early stages of the triple quests, because his boons can give the player character gold and Reflex/Quicksilver potions, all of which are generally very handy items that help with the next scenario. Conversely, the Glowing Guardian is a poor deity choice for early scenarios, because his beads clog the inventory of all subsequent scenarios without providing much benefit. Dracul and The Earthmother are really useful on those maps that have blood pools, to win the current map without having to rely on expendables like potions (which can then be carried over to the next scenario).
+General note on worship choice: {{g|Tikki Tooki}} is an exceptionally good deity in early stages of the triple quests, because his boons can give the player character gold and Reflex/Quicksilver potions, all of which are generally very handy items that help with the next scenario. Conversely, the {{g|Glowing Guardian}} is a poor deity choice for early scenarios, because his {{i|Prayer Bead}}s clog the inventory of all subsequent scenarios without providing much benefit. {{g|Dracul}} and {{g|The Earthmother}} are really useful on maps that have blood pools: One can win the current map without having to rely on expendables like potions (which can then be carried over to the next scenario).
 = Triple Quest 1 - The Spider Script =

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	Preparations are allowed normally, but only for this stage. There are only three shops. Otherwise, the map has the standard assortment of glyphs, potions, gold, altars and stat boosters. There are, however, no subdungeons. The {{s\|BURNDAYRAZ}} glyph is guaranteed to spawn, the rest of the glyphs are random.		Preparations are allowed normally, but only for this stage. There are only three shops. Otherwise, the map has the standard assortment of glyphs, potions, gold, altars and stat boosters. There are, however, no subdungeons. The {{s\|BURNDAYRAZ}} glyph is guaranteed to spawn, the rest of the glyphs are random.
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		+	Some recommended preps may include {{i\|Alchemist Scroll}} (for last stage), {{i\|Dragon Shield}}, {{g\|Taurog}} (Sword+Armor), {{g\|Tikki Tooki}} (potions), More Glyphs, {{i\|Burn Salve}}, and of course {{i\|Can of Whupaz}} (for boss #2).

	==== Special Rules ====		==== Special Rules ====

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 No preparations are allowed for this stage. The initial inventory will be what the player carried over from the end of scenario 2. There are only three shops. Otherwise, the map has the standard assortment of glyphs, potions and stat boosters. There is no gold, there are no altars, and there are no random subdungeons.
-On previous tries I always found three glyphs, they may be fixed: {{s|APHEELSIK}}, {{s|BLUDTUPOWA}} and {{s|ENDISWAL}}. However, BURNDAYRAZ is not guaranteed to spawn!
+BURNDAYRAZ is not guaranteed to spawn!
 ==== Special Rules ====

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 ==== Preparations / Resources ====
-No preparations are allowed for this stage. The initial inventory will be what the player carried over from the end of scenario 1. There are only three shops, and no gold in the main area. Otherwise, the map has the standard assortment of glyphs, potions, altars and stat boosters, and even has a random subdungeon. Note that there is no guarantee that BURNDAYRAZ would spawn!
+No preparations are allowed for this stage. The initial inventory will be what the player carried over from the end of scenario 1. There are only three shops, no gold in the main area, and no normal subdungeon. Otherwise, the map has the standard assortment of glyphs, potions, altars and stat boosters, and even sometimes a secret subdungeon. Note that there is no guarantee that BURNDAYRAZ will spawn!
 ==== Special Rules ====

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 The bosses are each alteregos of the character:
-* Warhamma Gobbo ({{GoWa}} icon, Attack 97, Health 412, First Strike, Blinks, Magic Immune).
+* Warhamma Gobbo ({{GoWa}} icon, Attack 97, Health 412, First Strike, Blinks, Magic Immune + Random Abilities).
-* Warhamma Gobbo ({{GoWa}} icon, Attack 97, Health 412, First Strike, Blinks, Physical Immune).
+* Warhamma Gobbo ({{GoWa}} icon, Attack 97, Health 412, First Strike, Blinks, Physical Immune + Random Abilities).
 Furthermore, when struck, each boss will re-randomize certain additional traits, just like Evolvia on Shifting Passages, and most notably Retaliate:Fireball is one of the random abilities that can come up.